Borderless Investing: David Greene's Blueprint for Out-of-State Success
ResearchEpisode #55·7 min·Jun 5, 2025

Borderless Investing: David Greene's Blueprint for Out-of-State Success

Out-of-state investing isn't scary -- it's strategic. Here's the Core Four team framework that makes remote real estate work.

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Key Takeaways
  1. 01Your best deal might be 1,200 miles from your front door -- don't limit your portfolio to your commute radius
  2. 02The Core Four team (agent, property manager, contractor, lender) makes out-of-state work -- you can't do it solo
  3. 03Markets like Memphis, Birmingham, and Cleveland offer 8-12% cap rates that coastal cities simply can't match
  4. 04A $150/month property manager fee on a $1,400 rent is the cheapest insurance policy you'll ever buy
  5. 05Fly out for the first deal, then systematize -- by deal three you shouldn't need to leave home
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A duplex in Memphis -- two beds each side, fully occupied, throwing off $1,400 a month combined. Purchase price: $127,000. The cap rate lands at 9.2%. In San Diego, that same $127,000 would not cover a down payment on a studio condo, and the cap rates barely crack 4%.

So why are you still only shopping in your zip code?

Timestamps

  • 0:00 -- The Memphis duplex that changed everything
  • 1:12 -- Why your local market might be holding you back
  • 2:45 -- David Greene's Core Four team framework
  • 4:30 -- Picking your out-of-state market (three numbers that matter)
  • 6:15 -- Remote due diligence without the plane ticket
  • 7:50 -- Your first out-of-state deal: the 90-day playbook

Why Your Backyard Is Not Enough

Most investors start local. Makes sense -- you can drive by the property and meet the contractor. But that comfort carries a price tag.

The price-to-rent ratio tells the story. In Los Angeles, the median home price runs about 25x annual rent. Cleveland sits closer to 8x. Every month you wait for a deal in a coastal city, someone in the Midwest is collecting cash flow on a property that cost less than your car.

David Greene made this case in Long-Distance Real Estate Investing: limiting yourself geographically is burning money. The best deal in America is not sitting on your street corner. It is probably 1,200 miles away.

The Core Four Team

You do not invest in a city you have never visited alone. Greene's framework comes down to four people.

One: a market-expert real estate agent. Not a cousin who just got licensed. Someone who has closed 50+ investor deals in that specific metro and knows which blocks are trending up versus cheap for a reason.

Two: a property manager. This hire makes or breaks out-of-state investing. A great PM handles tenant screening, maintenance, rent collection, and evictions -- everything you would otherwise need a plane ticket for. The typical fee runs 8-10% of monthly rent. On that $1,400/month Memphis duplex, you are paying $112-$140. Cheapest insurance you will ever buy.

Three: a contractor. Licensed, insured, with references from other investors in that market. Your agent and PM should both be able to recommend one. If neither can, walk away.

Four: a lender. Lending laws vary state to state. A local lender knows the closing process and can catch title issues or appraisal quirks that an out-of-state bank would miss. Build the Core Four before you make an offer -- not after.

Picking Your Market

Not every cheap market is a good market. Three numbers to screen for when you are researching markets:

Population growth. At least 0.5% annual growth over five years. Memphis runs about 0.3% for the metro -- borderline, but the job base (FedEx, healthcare, logistics) props it up. Birmingham is closer to 0.7%.

Median household income relative to median rent. If renters spend more than 30% of gross income on housing, your tenant pool shrinks and default risk climbs. The sweet spot is 22-28%.

Cap rate compression trend. Are cap rates falling fast? Prices are rising faster than rents and you may be late. Stable 8-12% cap rates over three to five years signal a mature cash-flow market that is not about to spike or crash.

Remote Due Diligence

Your agent does a video walkthrough -- FaceTime, Zoom. You check the roof line, foundation, and mechanicals. Your contractor does a formal inspection with a written scope of work and line-item costs. Your PM tells you what that property rents for within $50 because they manage 200 units in the same neighborhood.

Between those three sets of eyes, you have more data than most local investors who "drove by and it looked fine."

For deal one, fly out. Walk the neighborhood. Meet the Core Four over lunch. That trip costs $600 and builds trust that makes deals two through ten run on autopilot. By deal three, you should not need to leave home.

The 90-Day Playbook

This week: pick one out-of-state market. Run the three numbers -- population growth, income-to-rent ratio, cap rate trend. If it checks out, find one investor-friendly agent on BiggerPockets and schedule a 15-minute call.

You are not committing to anything. You are just expanding the map. Because the investors who build real wealth do not limit their portfolio to their commute radius. They build a team, trust the system, and let the numbers -- not geography -- pick the market.

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